12/25/97 - 1426
Isa Das Responds to Chakra
USA (VNN) - Chakra writes:
"But then, the question comes up, Why are Isa das's tapes different
from the tapes in the archives? When Satsvarupa Maharaja returned
to the United States from India, he gave the orginal tapes to
Isa to deliver to the archives. Isa ostensibly made copies for
himself and sent the originals, as directed. Then why the difference?"
All Glories To Srila Prabhupada!
Please accept my humble obeisances
Dear Ranajit and now Chakra,
I was preparing an answer to your question about the tapes when
I was told about Chakra's statements about my feelings for Srila
Prabhupada. Let me first state for the record that the tapes you
sent me (44,45,46) seem to be the same as the tapes I have. Thank
you for explaining the difference between these and those sent
to Perle. I will inform the IVC group and VNN that from now on
all copies should be ordered from the BBT Archives. I have only
sent out 5 copies and only 1 of those was paid for (no profit).
Note to Chakra, Please publish my complete letter so that the
world Vaisnava community can draw their own conclutions as to
my intent and feelings about Srila Prabhupada.
I came to my conclusions after letting more then 15 different
Hindi speaking Indians listen to tape 44, at different times and
places and over 60 hours of lab work on the wispers.
If I am accused of being offensive to Srila Prabhupada because
I am saying he was poisoned then you are accusing Srila Prabhupada
of the same offense, because he stated "my Guru Maharaja also"
From: Isa das
A few questions from tapes 44 and 46
Long pause I'll drink milk what about strength is optional (then
a strange noise as if Srila Prabhupada is being mocked) this sound
clip can be found on the VNN.
Conversations book and folio transcript of the same
Srila Prabhupada: No No , he's sincere. I'll drink milk.
Whatever strength is obtainable, there will be.
Why is Srila Prabhupada asking if milk is optional.
It should be noted that the whisper "the poison is going
down" and "is the poison in the milk" are before and after
Srila Prabhupada's question..
The next statement that can be heard is
Page 373. Jayapataka: "Like to follow the same treatment,
only while traveling."
Where does this sentence fit in and to whom is it
addressed? It is addressed to no one.
The next sentence is from Hamsaduta "So we should meet and make
a program for going around Vrndavana." This question is addressed
to Srila Prabhupada, who replies "yes". As I have explained before
Perle labs said that the tapes are not representative of the actual
events and conversations taking place.
In fact pages can be heard turning as if a script is being read.
Another point to consider:
Jagadisa: "Srila Prabhupada, can you tell us why you want
to go on the parikrama?"
Bhakti- caru: (Bengali) Break
Srila Prabhupada: "Good paddy"
Tamal Krsna: This seems like suicide ...
Srila Prabhupada: And this is also suicidal.
Tamal Krsna ... Now you have to choose which suicide.
This suicide point and the next points Srila Prabhupada brings
up about Ram and Ravana have been discussed before. But it is
strange that Srila Prabhupada says he wants to go on parikrama
to eat good PADDY or rice. The topic is not discussed further.
But if you read the last paragraph of the purport of Bhagavad
Gita, Chapter 1 Verse 1, we find what Srila Prabhupada may be
implying by "good
"Both the Pandavas and the sons of Dhrtarastra belong to the same
family, but Dhrtarastra's mind is disclosed herein. He deliberately
claimed only his sons as Kurus, and he separated the sons of Pandu
from the family heritage. One can thus understand the specific
position of Dhrtarastra in relationship with his nephews, the
Pandu. As in the paddy field the unnecessary plants are taken
out and real paddy plants are shoved in, so it is expected from
the very beginning of these topics that in the religious field
of Kuruksetra, where the father of religion, Sri Krsna, was present,
the unwanted plants, Dhrtarastra's son Duryodhana and others,
would be wiped
out and thoroughly religious persons, headed by Yudhisthira, would
be established by the Lord.
Another point that should be considered is the statement by Tamal
Krsna Goswami from tape 44. (the first minutes of the tape)
After Srila Prabhupada talks about his poisoning, Tamal Krsna
Goswami makes the comment "Krsna das". And then asks "who said
that Srila Prabhupada" refering to the poison. Why is Krsna das's
name given up so quickly?
Although, Krsna das, Srila Prabhupada's godbrother may be involved.
It may be his giggle that can be heard in the first whisper on
tape 46 "the poison is going down, giggle, the poison is going
down" and again he can be heard chanting at the end of the tape,
while the statement "Poison Ishvaya Rasa" is spoken with Srila
Prabhupada responding "ME" and then someone says "take it easy,
get ready to go"
E. Another question that has been asked.
Why on these 20 tapes recording Srila Prabhupada's last weeks,
hours and Minutes, practically, the only conversations taking
place are about whether to do as Srila Prabhupada asks, such as
go on the parikrama or pound, shelling and pence talk. Why were
we not allowed to fill Srila Prabhupada's ears with KRSNA Katha
and our final questions? Why did he have to leave us hearing "take
it easy, get ready to go"?
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