EDITORIAL
September 18, 2000 VNN6257 Related VNN Stories Comment on this story
Chakra - Planned, Conceived And Induced
By Tamal Krsna Gosvami
SUBMITTED BY SRIDAM SAKHA DASA
EDITORIAL, Sep 18 (VNN) — The following is a series of fascinating letters written by Tamal Krsna Gosvami, to a COM conference for the strategic planning of Chakra website back in 1997. (So much for Chakra autonomy) These letters reveal how the real driving force for the inception of Chakra was his anxiety to see a powerful propaganda machine created to help fight the poisoning allegations against him.
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Text COM:961115 (1 line)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 13-Dec-97 19:24
To: Harikesa Swami [45471] (received: 14-Dec-97 11:14)
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [14]
Reference: Text COM:959703 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: CHAKRA
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Thank you for your assurance that the Chakra will start spinning by Tuesday.
(Text COM:961115)
Text COM:961116 (13 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 13-Dec-97 19:24
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [15]
Reference: Text COM:960065 by Krishna Dharma (das) MG (Manchester -GB)
Comment: Text COM:961279 by Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley -USA)
Comment: Text COM:961751 by Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley -USA)
Comment: Text COM:961903 by Krishna Dharma (das) MG (Manchester - GB)
Comment: Text COM:962170 by umapati@intercon.net
Comment: Text COM:962272 by umapati@intercon.net
Comment: Text COM:963098 by Nikhilananda (das) ACBSP (D)
Comment: Text COM:963099 by Nikhilananda (das) ACBSP (D)
Comment: Text COM:964080 by umapati@intercon.net
Subject: Editorial Policy
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Hare Krishna to all!
I am still of the opinion that we would benefit by two websites, a suggestion I made a week or so ago. I am even more convinced of this after reading Krishna Dharma's various statements. CHAKRA's mission statement is becoming clarified. Its mood is feisty and confident and clearly
partisan, which is fine. But I would recommend a second website which is more news
orientated and apparently neutral, something like VNN. We will be much stronger if we come to the bargaining table with two arms, rather than one.
One can be the "heavy" the other apparently "sweet" -- a chutney. I would propose Umapati Swami as the editor for CHAKRA, Krishna Dharma as the editor for the other, with Vipramukhya Swami faciliating both. Is this too ambitious a project?
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Text COM:962645 (2 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 14-Dec-97 18:27
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [30]
Reference: Text COM:962294 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:962999 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: Editorial Policy
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OK -- one webpage called CHAKRA, but let it have links called PADMA
GADA
SHANKHA -- which each have their own respective editiorial voices.
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Text COM:967033 (8 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 16-Dec-97 21:11
To: Gunagrahi das Goswami [744] (forwarded: 16-Dec-97 21:20)
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [124]
Reference: Text COM:962843 by Gunagrahi das Goswami
Comment: Text COM:968324 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: Debates
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> I'm not much of a strategist, but I'd like to join WSTRAT as a passive
> listener. Is that possible?
>
> Ys GdG
Why a passive listener? Writing is the best cure for all diseases (besides Hari Nama, of course). Please request HH Gunagrahi Maharaj to contribute. If he wishes to be anonymous, he can always use a pseudonym.
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Text COM:967026 (4 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 16-Dec-97 21:11
To: umapati@intercon.net (sent: 16-Dec-97 21:17)
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [119]
Reference: Text COM:965247 by umapati@intercon.net
Subject: Re: Symasundar Prabhu.
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The supposed witness is the author of the article, NaraNarayan das.
And
please note, that since his version has not been discredited, it has
become
part of Bhagavat das' article. Syamasundar must be contacted to
discredit
this false allegation.
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From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 15-Dec-97 17:26
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [64]
For: Net Monitors
Reference: Text COM:963249 by Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley
- USA)
Comment: Text COM:964484 by Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley -
USA)
Comment: Text COM:964633 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:964702 by Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley -
USA)
Comment: Text COM:965249 by umapati@intercon.net
Subject: Independent Vaisnava Council
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Before any of you join the council, recognize that it has heavily
political
agendas. I hesitate to describe the degree of hate certain members are
known
to have towards ISKCON leadership. Adding your names validates them.
Please
be cautious and realize that the truth is not always apparent at first
glance.
> Rocana just published the list of devotees who have agreed to sit on this
> council to date (below). As far as I can see (I don't know everyone) only
> Mrigendra and Mahabuddhi (is this Mahabuddhi from Florida?) represent
> ISKCON. I'm not sure how important the work of this council is, but do we
> want more ISKCON representation?
>
> I've been nominated for participation, but have so far stalled saying
> (truthfully) that I don't think I have enough time to do a good job. Are
> Mrigendra and Mahabuddhi reporting back to ISKCON about the council's work
> and plans?
>
> Does this council represent any threat at all, or are we glad it's simply
> keeping the members busy?
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
> Ys,
> Madhusudani
>
> COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP
>
>
>
> As of this date, the following devotees have confirmed their commitment to
> sit as members on the Independent Vaisnava Council:
>
> Agrahya dasa
> Bahudak dasa
> Damodar dasa
> Gadadhar dasa
> Jagajivana dasa
> Kulashekara dasa
> Mahabuddhi dasa
> Mahaksa dasa
> Mrigendra dasa
> Nara Narayana Viswakarma dasa
> Rocana dasa
> Vaisnava dasa
> Yasodanandana dasa
> Yasomatinandana dasa
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Text COM:968032 (3 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 17-Dec-97 11:21
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [136]
Reference: Text COM:967216 by Ravindra Svarupa (das) ACBSP (Philad. -
USA)
Comment: Text COM:970941 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:971187 by Ravindra Svarupa (das) ACBSP (Philad. -
USA)
Subject: Bahudak and the rest of the story
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Yes, I would urge you modify the tone of the extra info on Bahudak to
avoid
giving the impression that he is concealing part of his story about
child
abuse (even if he is).
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Text COM:967027 (2 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 16-Dec-97 21:11
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [120]
Comment: Text COM:968321 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: What?
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How is it possible for our main writer and editor, HH Umapati
Maharaj,to do
his work if he cannot access VNN?
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Text COM:977572 (8 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 18:03
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [283]
Reference: Text COM:976716 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:977881 by Ravindra Svarupa (das) ACBSP (Philad. -
USA)
Comment: Text COM:978419 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: Deserving to be addressed
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> > The main thing I have to find out is how these tapes differ from the
> > archive versions, and why.
>
> Can you give me a report of the proceedings of the investigation so I can
> keep a running account on the web page?
Ravindra Prabhu, you seemingly have not answered whether we can give a
running report of the investigation. That would certainly be news
worthy.
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Text COM:973602 (20 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 18-Dec-97 17:46
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [196]
Comment: Text COM:974911 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:975358 by Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley -
USA)
Subject: martyr
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As mentioned I believe on GBC Discussions or perhaps here, there is an urgent need for an evaluation of Bhagavat's statement and its bearing on seeing Prabhupada as a martyr. Who will do it?
I also feel that someone must write a comment on Bhagavat's statement where he indicates that he is not strichtly following. In other words, what is the real proof of loving Prabhupada? Persons who have been strichtly following are accused of hating Prabhupada, poisoning His Divine Grace, and subverting his movement by those who don't strichtly follow but who truely love him.
Does it sound right? An article like this would be appreciated by all ISKCON temple devotee readers and would help to draw the line between the Opposing sides. Again, who will write it? I would think lots of persons,-- any Senior ISKCON devotee should be able.
Finally, we heard talk the gloves are off with Pratyatosh. Who has taken the gloves off?
Writers! Writers! Writers! I suggest that Vipramukhya Maharaj or Umapati Maharaj write personally to a number of sannyasis and senior men and women known to be articulate and propose specific topics. They may agree.
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Text COM:977574 (25 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 18:03
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [285]
Reference: Text COM:974911 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: Writers
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Is Madhusudhani working on this? Why not post a letter to all ISKCON gurus requesting that they send us the names of any senior, literate disciples who can write for us? Better yet, post such an appeal to all Temple Presidents,since they have a COM forum. Also, we have GBC Delegates.
Ask them to write and suggest names of others. Madhusudhani Radha, I request you to please do this. At the present, most articles are from Umapati
Swami. We need variety.
> > Writers! Writers! Writers! I suggest that Vipramukhya Maharaj or Umapati
> > Maharaj write personally to a number of sannyasis and senior men and
> > women known to be articulate and propose specific topics. They may
> > agree.
>
> I'm busy enough. As stated in the beginning, I'm able to keep the web page
> going, which is a full-time service. I'm also busy doing other things as
> well, as you may know. I got the CHAKRA thing on the Internet and send out
> the Internet Newsletter to every user on COM. That was quite an
> achievement, if I don't say so myself. But I need help, too. I can't do
> everything myself.
>
> However, if you suggest names, I can try writing them for help. But I wish
> others would do that.
>
> Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada,
> Vipramukhya Swami
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Text COM:977573 (15 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 18:03
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [284]
Reference: Text COM:976713 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:978420 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: A Brave New World
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May I suggest that you post your need for various types of help -- web
literates, writers, researchers, etc.-- on a wide forum. You may just
get
many volunteers. Who knows how many would like to help, but have not
been
asked?
> I agree with Nikilananada that we need to prioritize our work of attack.
>
> We also need to increase our team of writers.
>
> I also would appreciate help from some computer/web page literates who
> might be able to do some of the work behind the scenes to handle all this
> stuff.
>
> Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada,
> Vipramukhya Swami
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Text COM:977141 (3 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 14:25
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [265]
Reference: Text COM:974144 by Nikhilananda (das) ACBSP (D)
Subject: ritviks and hans
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In fact, NaraNarayan's most second posting in VNN praises Hamsadutta
profusely as the only senior disciple during Prabhupada's final
pastimes to
really support Prabhupada. Have you all seen this latest letter?
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Text COM:977570 (25 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 18:03
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [281]
Reference: Text COM:976142 by Nikhilananda (das) ACBSP (D)
Subject: Puranajana goes ballistic...
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Is someone doing something to get an offial ISKCON statement out to
all news
groups that Puranjan contacts? Mukunda Maharaj, as the Minister of
Communications, I would think that you would see to it that ICNA and
ICE
both issue statements and that these go to whomever P. is posting to.
Please
confirm that this is being done.
> AGTSP -- Alarm alarm, Prabhus.
>
> In my opinion Puranjana s contacting the media and the Indians etc. is an
> emergency which has to be taken serious and requires immediate action. The
> ICNA and ICE who are responsible for dealing with the media should receive
> a distinct and loud alarm call.
> We cannot simply stand by and watch this happen.
>
> If we know what Puranjana wrote and to whom, ICNA should contact the same
> scources and send them a short info on Puranjana and his madness, as well
> as answer or rather deny the accusations in his letter briefly ( about
> five sentences ).
>
> Most importantly we should offer them a ---contact adress (!!!) where they
> can receive the other side of the story if they consider publishing news
> about Puranjana s message.
>
> I would say this is strictly a matter of ICNA and not of this forum which
> deals with answering internet defamation directly.
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Text COM:977569 (5 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 18:03
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [280]
Reference: Text COM:976901 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:978418 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: Puranajana goes ballistic...
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> I don't think it's wise to try to respond to EVERYTHING the lunatic
> Puranjana writes.
Perhaps not, but there must be some official ISKCON statement made to
All news groups he posts to.
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Text COM:977193 (28 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 15:03
To: Hridayananda Dasa Goswami [2643] (forwarded: 20-Dec-97 15:10)
Cc: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [267]
Reference: Text COM:976739 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:977560 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: Re: GBC conf. leak!
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> > Dear Vipramukhya Swami,
> > Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. I
> > wanted to personally thank you and the others at CAKRA for your
> > extraordinarily important and much appreicated service. I pray to Srila
> > Prabhhupada to empower you more and more in your endeavor.
> > Hoping you are well,
> > Your servant,
> >
> > Hridayananda dasa Goswami
>
> Dear Hridayananda Maharaja,
>
> Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
>
> I can still remember the first time I saw you. You came to Henry Street
> and gave a little informal talk in the prasadam room downstairs. I was a
> young brahmacari in those days and was very enlivened to see such an
> intelligent sannyasi. Since then, you have *many* times proven yourself a
> friend to me as well, and I always appreciate your good counsel and
> association.
>
> Thank you for your ongoing encouragement. We are all surely enlivened to
> hear from you.
>
> Your servant,
> Vipramukhya Swami
But why not urge him to write for CHAKRA?
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From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 15:03
To: Ralph H. Somershein (sent: 20-Dec-97 15:09)
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [266]
Reference: Text COM:976400 by Internet: Ralph H. Somershein
Subject: in defense of my Godbrothers
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I wish to personally thank my godbrother Puru Prabhu for his trust and
Love for me. Is it possible that his remarks can be published? Although
That would not vindicate myself or others now falsely suspected of the
Poisoning of our spiritual master, at least it would present an alternative view
Of how some are feeling.
Text COM:977137 (130 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 14:25
To: Vipramukhya Swami [9408] (received: 20-Dec-97 17:42)
Cc: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [263]
Reference: Text COM:974908 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: Can you help
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Dear Viprmukhya Maharaj,
PAMHO. AGTSP.
I have already read the draft statement. I'm not sure about the Statement since it argues at cross purposes -- I'm not going to jump into the fray and respond to individual messages vs. I am jumping into the fray and discrediting all critics. I would be ducking mud balls and slinging mud balls and I don't think that will get us too far. I would be charging my opponents with a host of sins -- supplying knowingly false information, submitting false information under false names, committing slander, obstructing justice (all of which, no doubt, they are doing). But I just don't think this kind of counterattack is ultimately going to get us very far. I appreciate that this may have to be done by some, to win the "war of words," but I doubt that I should be one of those who do it since, as your friend has pointed out, nearly the entire attack is aimed at me, and it will appear that I am simply 'getting back.'
The only way to fight lies is with truth. The only way to fight poor logic is with sound logic. I don't want to counter innuendo with innuendo, name calling with name calling, veiled threats with veiled threats. I would be locking myself into the same strategy as our opponents -- demonizing people who disagree with me. Maybe that will convince devotees but it sure doesn't work for outsiders and it doesn't resolve the conflict. So I doubt this kind of statement, especially coming from me, will do us much good. I
would just be throwing back their grenades.
Ultimately, what is most needed is textual evidence and forensic evidence.
For a great many, especially those outside ISKCON, verbal testimony right now is not worth the paper its written on (or the screen its posted on) because many no longer believe what people are saying today about yesterday.
Textual and forensic evidence is what has brought the pot to a boil and only that will take it off the burner.
Before the appearance of CHAKRA, our side was not scoring very well at all.
It was a capital mistake to publish the exchange in which most of the critical comments are in Hindi and we offered no translation. In fact, we need to include the Hindi and the translations (as Vivek did in his piece).
Otherwise, we simply look foolish. Second, we need to get past the notion that citing scripture is the main way to argue this matter. (I know it belongs to our tradition and it may work theologically, but it's not going to work in the same way here.) We need to give extended textual materials in which sentences like the one we claim "proves" that Prabhupada was not poisoned (the "not that I'm poisoned" comment) occurs. Our critics can cite scripture at us as easily as we quote to discredit them. Meaning is determined by its context -- words in sentences, sentences in
paragraphs, and both in a historical-social setting.
As I said, truth is the best argument and true-telling requires *evidence* when everyone's *word* is under suspicion. Let's get on the evidence and off the podium. I could deny what NaraNarayan has said, and I am certain that Shyamasundar das (to whom I supposedly spoke what NaraN.saus he heard) will also reject NaraNarayan's statement. That will be enough for our supporters, but such denials will not convince our opponents. That is to be expected. But what we really need is to convince the 'middle', the vast number of uncommitted. If we cannot convince the 'middle' then we are lost.
We need researchers who can delve into all the materials and establish the truth on the basis of irrefutable facts, not just on scriptural interpretation or personal testimonials.
ys
Tamal Krishna Goswami
> Dear Tamal Krishna Goswami,
>
> Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
>
> Here's a message a favorable devotee wrote :
>
> > I had a quick look at that VNN web site. This poisoning issue almost
> > seems like an attempt to discredit just one person, Tamal Krishna
> > Goswami. They claim to have a sound recording of him saying "put the
> > poison in different pots". Nasty stuff.
>
> I think, in light of this, it's time for you to make a statement,
> something in the order of what Bhagavat Dharma suggested.
>
> You might consider allowing me to post something like this on CHAKRA. It's
> entirely up to you, but I think it would be in your interest, as I'm
> concerned about your safefy, to be honest.
>
> ys Vipramukhya Swami (see below)
> ----------------------
> Here is the text, which could be the basis of a statement, or a pre-amble
> to a statement.
>
>
> I understand that I have been regularly attacked on the net by ....I have
> not been monitoring the newsgroups, so I cannot speak in detail about what
> has been said. I have learned from some past experience that it isn't wise
> to jump into the fray, even to deny obvious falsehoods.
>
> It isn't a good idea for me to respond to individual messages, because
> that prompts even more debate and flames. I can, however, make a few
> comments in general about any lurid charges made about any individual or
> organisation on the internet.
>
> 1) On most newsgroups, there is no moderator. Anyone can post anything
> without any requirement that it be relevant.
>
> 2) Anyone can make up any story they want, without any requirement for
> proof.
>
> 3) Anyone can claim to be anyone else simply by switching the email
> address in his or her header. Thus, one person can pretend to be a lot of
> different people, all of whom support the first person's contentions.
> (Hint: Look for similarities in style.)
>
> 4) By posting a lot of irrelevant messages, one person can completely
> dominate a debate, distracting people from the original issue.
>
> 5) Regarding claims of law-breaking, violence, child abuse etc.
>
> a) If someone is making such claims, they ought to offer some sort of
> confirmable evidence. (The best evidence would be a court record or
> evidence of formal complaint.) If they don't offer any substantial
> evidence, it could be called slander.
>
> b) If someone has current evidence of law breaking, it is his or her
> responsibility to report this to the appropriate law enforcement
> authority. If they do not, this could be considered obstruction of justice
> or something similar. If someone claims to have such evidence but isn't
> reporting it, we ought to wonder why.
>
> c) In courts of law, unlike on the internet, a person is considered
> innocent until proven guilty, and there are strict rules about the
> admissibility of evidence. (A message posted anonymously on the internet
> is certainly not admissible.) On the internet, once charges start, you
> can never prove yourself innocent, because once you respond to one charge,
> others emerge in its place.
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Text COM:977627 (11 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 18:39
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [287]
Comment: Text COM:977882 by Ravindra Svarupa (das) ACBSP (Philad. -
USA)
Comment: Text COM:978836 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: Suggestions
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1. May I suggest that the name of the author to each article be placed
under the title rather than at the end of the article. It helps to know from
the start who I am reading.
2. Could there be a much more prominent link button to INN. As it is
now, I have missed it every time, though I have accessed CHAKRA daily. INN
should be layed out exactly as a newspaper.
3. It would be nice to have a running count of how many persons access
the web sit weekly and monthly, just as VNN does. Gives the reader a sense
of our popularity.
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Text COM:977877 (8 lines)
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 20-Dec-97 22:22
To: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [289]
Subject: Swan Song
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Dear Maharajas and Prabhus
PAMHO. AGTSP.
This will be my last posting on this conference. CHAKRA, the flagship of this conference, is off to a strong start and I feel it is time for me to fight on other battlefields. I will continue to visit CHAKRA daily and when required send messages to individuals. Please continue to war against misinformation. An enlightened readership is the best protection against all forms of ignorance. Hare Krishna.
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From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 10-Feb-98 01:34
To: Puru (das) ACBSP (New York - USA) [751]
Cc: Jayadvaita Swami [6278]
Reference: Text COM:1098551 by Puru (das) ACBSP (New York - USA)
Comment: Text COM:1098804 by Puru ACBSP
Comment: Text COM:1098811 by Puru ACBSP
Comment: Text COM:1098813 by Puru ACBSP
Comment: Text COM:1099150 by Puru ACBSP
Comment: Text COM:1099158 by Puru ACBSP
Comment: Text COM:1104049 by Puru ACBSP
Subject: for BTG fee advertising
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PAMHO. AGTSP.
Providing that there is absolutely no way that a person could remove
the
lamination and then forge a letter, the idea is fine. I am sure that
Srila
Prabhupada would be very pleased to see the funds used for
establishing a
memorial in His Divine Grace's honor. I thank both of you for asking
my
opinion. Hare Krishna.
> Jai Maharaj, here is Jayadvaita's offer to me in case you don't have his
> com in your file. Ys Puru Das.
>
>
> Hare Krsna.
>
> Your ad is fine with me in the "Free Publicity" forum. I could also post
> it to our "BTG-Talk" forum, where you might get a good response.
>
> A further possibility is that we could advertise it in our "Hare Krsna
> Catalog" in the magazine itself. BTG usually takes a cut on such sales,
> but perhaps this time--if the catalog managers agree--would could just do
> it as a service.
>
> I do have one misgiving, though. If I recall, just before Srila
> Prabhupada disappeared, he instructed Tamal Krishna Goswami to destroy
> whatever copies remained of his letterhead.
>
> The way you're offering these copies--laminated and so on--I don't think
> there's a problem. Srila Prabhupada concern, I think, was to make sure
> that no one forged anything on his stationary. Still, I'd be more
> comfortable about this if you would inquire about it from Tamal Krishna
> Maharaja. If he agrees that this letterhead offering is ok, that would be
> good enough for me.
>
> You can reach Tamal Krishna Maharaja on COM.
>
> Ok?
>
> Hare Krsna.
>
> --ys, js
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Text COM:957356 (312 lines) [W1]
From: Tamal Krishna Goswami
Date: 11-Dec-97 20:58
To: Vipramukhya Swami [8876] (received: 12-Dec-97 03:47)
To: Krishna Dharma (das) MG (Manchester - GB) [2735] (received:
12-Dec-97 06:47)
To: Umapati Swami [429] (forwarded: 11-Dec-97 21:00)
Cc: Mukunda Goswami [8251] (received: 12-Dec-97 05:25)
Cc: Harikesa Swami [45380] (received: 12-Dec-97 11:25)
Cc: Ravindra Svarupa (das) ACBSP (Philad. - USA) [1056] (received:
12-Dec-97 17:10)
Cc: WSTRAT (Web Strategy) [1] (sender: Vipramukhya Swami)
Reference: Text COM:956741 by Vipramukhya Swami
Comment: Text COM:959703 by Vipramukhya Swami
Subject: CHAKRA
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For those who have not already read VNN's response to the GBC
Statement, here it is. The CHAKRA had better start spinning awfully soon.
12/10/97 - 1337
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